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« on: February 01, 2007, 09:49:48 PM »

There is a corporation being formed in an attempt to have SLS develop a new Hunting Game for the Hunting Community!

How much interest is there in reicieveing a New Hunting Game developed by Southlogic Studios? What would you like to see? Would people buy a much better game at a higher price?
What other comments do you have?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2007, 01:39:27 AM »

Most people here, I think would say yes. Most games for PC cost $40 or $50 or more.  I would be willing to pay this amount or more for a GREAT hunting game. And SLS is by far the best for creating hunting games.  My dream would be to include most of the biggame animals (the north american 29 I think its called) from North America (furbearers like a wolverine would also be cool, I love these things).  If things go well, Expansion packs could be made for Africa , Asia, South America or other continents.  Just some thoughts.  Wink 
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 02:25:03 AM »

How do I wanna pay for a better game..Interesting question.

I think all the deer hunter series have been $20, maybe the original was $10-$15. Given inflation I think $25-$30 is in line. Now for a better game, I'd expext to pay more..problem is who's gonna toss $50 for a fancy package that claims to be better.

I'd hafta say I'd like to see a solid game in the $25 range built with mindset that expansion packs could be added at a later time..The sims series comes to mind.

As to what I'd like to see..The best of what I've already seen..whitetail, mulies, blacktail and couses (sp?) for north american deer. Elk, Moose & Bear added in would make a really solid start. Other animals could come later, maybe bundled with addtional maps/objects & weapons (I still wanna see a golf club..something about the clink of a ball off a skull) Could even blend in small game and bird hunting.

It has to have a map making feature, even if I don't know how to make 'em. I sure enjoy hunting the maps the fine people around here create. It has to play over the internet, maybe a loging feature for online tournies. The cute lil touches of trophys and skill points is nice, but it seems just a matter of time before there's a cheat for those, so not really needed in my mind. The dh2005 line of gear and weapons seems plenty for me other than I'd like to see a boat added to the vehicles.

Bottom line for me..the more realistic the better, but made for adults..I don't mind the bag limits, but a computer voice of a warden explaining to me what I just did was wrong..well use your imagination on where to place that. Skip the target range..we can all dial in a gun who need to waste the time..it's about hunting.

Somebody kick the box so I stop typing now.  Tongue

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2007, 03:46:39 AM »

Dplays,
the reason atari stopped making the DH series was they couldn't make money at $20, if you want a new hunting game that is good (from SLS) you're gonna have to expect to pay $40 I would think for it to be profitable for the developers(unless you'd like another cabelas type game) . I say make it as good as possible and charge more. If the game offers more than the recent hunting games(which wouldn't be hard) on the market, I believe people would pay for it. If its all packaging and fluff, of course no one is going to buy it.  It needs to be good, that is why this new corp.? is having SLS develop the game. I mean how much have you spent on hunting games already?(I've spent around $200 probably more over the years)  If you got one that was great, you wouldn't need to buy any more. You could market it as the Ultimate Hunting simulation guaranteed, don't waste your time on any other hunting sims. Variety is a key also I believe.  Hunting Deer all the time gets boring.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2007, 07:45:27 AM »

this probable hunting game a farce?, or like a gentleman that use to come on Atari forums, i, think Zeke,and say this very same thing.?but no one was even thinking of making a new one.but i hope they do,i cant believe bass pro shops wasted money making trophy hunter 2007,the engine  is compared to dh 2003 ,why didn't they go with sls if they could use Atari,s tidal th2007?,that woulda been a great match,bass pro got the money to keep a good hunting game going,
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2007, 11:41:44 AM »

Firstnight, this is not a farce.  Without going into to many details, the reality of a new SLS hunting game is just around the corner.  So keep your fingers crossed that all goes according to plan and post some ideas of what you would like to see.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2007, 12:00:06 PM »

40 to 60 dollar range, same deer as 05 but add couse deer, maybe have add ons for other big game, deer sounds more realistic, be able to hunt online, map editor, just as good if not better graphics as 05, on rut have bucks runnin doe,
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2007, 04:08:45 PM »

Great sir I'm  glad were getting a game that all will want to play,.You guys gals played Far-Cry,wouldn't a hunting game with that engine and AI,in animals  be a hunt.?..wow!!
,If SLS could keep it a hunting game,with north, south American animals would be great,elk,bear,moose,deer of all types.the goats,sheep.something we never could get bored,with ,hunts that would keep us busy,as one gentleman suggested was add expansion packs ,with a new animal or two even venture to africa,they may cost us 19.99 but well worth it if the game has great game play and graphics,You folks that can make maps,maby animals,im sure will put alot of input to the new backers im sure ...Im not sure i like cartoon things ,i thought it was to be a true to life hunting series .god speed the folks thats doing this.. been 3 long yrs sence we had a change,...myself i still love trophy hunter 2003..dh2005 i think came out fall 2004,thats why i said 3 yrs
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2007, 11:45:01 PM »

I know id be willing to spend 40 or 50 for a new game no problem there.  but it would have to have better graphics, map editor with more trees brush etc.  I would love it to keep the rare deer but id like to see the piebald and the melanistic for the deer also.  Id have to agree add a boat to the game like some of the older games had that during online play other hunters could also get in.  i would like to see aa feature like thay had on dh5 where they had the season feature where you could go season after season watching the bucks grow to be bigger.  just a thought there i know id like to see bucks with more non typical horns like real life getting up to 45 points etc.  a bigger selection of charcters to choose from would also be nice.   id also have to say addng trail markers to help follow blood trails would be nice also very helpful sometimes. I was also thinking maybe different seasons where only bows and muzzle loaders could be used then a regular season for rifle etc. Only a thought some might like it some might not.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 02:06:12 PM »

Right ON, FirstKnight!!  If you want it realistic to the enviroment, you need  most of animals(at least the big ones) indigineous to that enviroment (sort of an improved Th03 with deer added,mostly whitetail and mule and  blacktail, was what I was hoping for, maybe add a few more animals even like Bison and Dall Sheep or pronghorn or bobcat) . I love Mickey's ideas about the boat and the piebald and melanistic animals (get rid of the cartoon does) and I just assumed it would have a map editor but just in case I am so for that too.

 I had another suggestion I thought it might be cool if the birds of prey lighted on the ground or in a tree instead just flying all the time, maybe pick off a squirrel or a hare or a trout like they did in TH03 and have a nice little lunch. An Owl might be a nice addition.  I know there's no way to include all the animals I'm hoping for but as many as feasable would be nice.  One of my favorite features of th03 was wolves and cougars running down prey.  Wouldn't mind seeing them gnaw on it after they kill it. You could even have competing predators fight over the kill, like a grizzly chasing off a wolf.   I know I'm a windbag about this , but I'm gonna keep throwing out ideas and hope the Developers use some of them.  like firstknight said , its been 3 years since a good hunting game came out(DH05) and I'm pretty excited about a new SLS hunting game.  Just a post script, probably wouldn't buy it if it included just deer.  I like BIG game  Wink.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2007, 05:45:40 PM »

At one time ,I'm not sure it may have been the first one that done deer hunter,they made a turkey hunting game ...the  Turkey looked better then than they do in DH 2005,.but i would like to see a turkey added..while  setting in a stand,ma by an old gobbler may walk by  ,we can take him,that would be cool,that would be a cool game,deer ,elk,the goats,and birds that may fly close that u could take while hunting if the map your in had them on your tags,.but most of all like the gentleman said.. great graphics and animal AI,yes to start 40.00 for the game then expansion packs.That would cost them less to make ...charge us 19.99 expansion pkg,ma by two a yr or more..there profit.....yes that will work,I'm sure,if good graphics and animals that act and look  real,would blow all others off the market,But we must know if they make this game we all cant get what we want in it.. the expansion pkg,later may help.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2007, 07:54:16 AM »

If the game includes mulies, please fix the weight.  Mule deers are as large as Whitetails if not larger.  A Monster Mule deer(prairie and desert mule deer are smaller I believe)  can reach weights of 350 - 400 lbs.  Whitetails even the HUGE ones rarely exceed 300 lbs.  The Mule deer and the Whitetail are roughly the same height but the Mule deer is much stockier.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2007, 08:51:49 AM »

i would like to see a new version of th03...but with all the things that dh2005 has...to me th03 maps look more realistic in the sense high mountain type maps wont restrict the movement of the animals like in dh2005...i prefer the editor of dh2005 than the th03 one...so if the new game has an editor like dh2005 but the more realistic movement of the animals in th03 then this would be a great game...add deer and th03 animals together..but not have as many deer probably the main 3 wt,bt and mule...if it was possable maybe we could have an expansion pack that added other things to the game like new countries...animals (thinking in line with foxes..other types of birds like crows,pheasants and maybe farm animals)these would be just to add like we do with squirrels badgers etc...the way wolves chase down its prey in th03 or how they chase the hunter too would be a good thing to add to the new game too...and even have it so during breeding season being able to see the animals chasing each other around...even get points for shooting birds and other non trophy animals...good for tournies then as these can be bonus points to hunters.....animals being able to climb trees and a more realistic weather conditions...caves would be a nice feature that the editor cant make too...but one thing i would like from a map making point and thats being able to make custom objects alot more easily...where we can use a more up to date and easier to get software to do this like alot of other games can do...and in the editor a better selection of things to add to a map like textures,objects etc.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2007, 01:17:58 PM »

great ideas Chiyanne, I especially love the idea of animals being able to climb trees.  If your hunting something (especially if its been spooked) like a cougar or a bobcat or a black bear, you cant just look on the ground you have to check up in the trees too.  That would be so cool.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2007, 01:43:17 PM »

I don't know if this is possible, but for mapmakers a cool feature I think would have an Animal EDitor where you could create your own animals (from the basic types of animals like the deer family, canines, bears, weasels, felines, birds, sheep and bovines). All of which SLS has moving models of except for bovines(so the editor could include just basic models of each type) .  From the deer family they have-elk, moose, deer,caribou-from the canines-wolves, from the bears-black and brown bear - from weasels type animals-badger, from felines-cougar, they have all types of birds-hawks,eagles, ducks , geese, as well as both sheep and goats.  From these basic animal types you could make almost any animal you wish by just  being able to change the size of the animal and the texture also I suppose you would need a way to change the antler structure for the deer family and horn structure for goats or sheep and bovines. The movement would not have to be changed because these animals would move similar to their family type . Then your map could have any animal you desire.  this is probably not possible but it would be cool.
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